Dysgraphia: 504 OR IEP FOR DYSGRAPHIA?

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Richelle:  My son is 8. We easily got a 504 plan in place last school year for anxiety & ADHD- more recently he was diagnosed w/ dysgraphia, and tested as gifted. Should he have an IEP? I was told by his school there was not enough supporting evidence to include the writing disability in his current 504 plan.

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Martha
08/04/2020 5:51 am

Hello,

My niece was diagnosed at the end of Kindergarten with dysgraphia as part of a motor coordination disorder, she also has ADHD. My niece is now entering third grade. She has the mechanics of letter formation down but still forgets what the letters look like on paper, so she still needs a letter board on her desk to remind her. She still does not complete writing assignments like stories or poems well. Her stories are barely three lines long. The school was suppose to start teaching her keyboarding last year, but never did even though it was on her 504. We fought with the school last February over her 504 and what accommodations to include. I had to request someone with experience with dysgraphia be at her meeting as she is the only child in her entire school with dysgraphia.

Courtney
01/08/2020 8:07 pm

I have a student who is on an IEP for an outside diagnosis of Dyslexia. She is on grade level except for fluency because she reads slow. The reason for keeping her on an IEP is so she gets services and accommodations, but she is not receiving any special education services, only intervention with her gen. ed. peers, from which she has shown a lot of growth. She has no goals because her fluency won’t change much and it doesn’t interfere with the rest of her learning. I’m inclined to think she should not stay on an IEP and move to a 504.

Chuck
01/09/2020 3:26 pm
Reply to  Courtney

What you describe sounds like a typical 504 plan. The IEP team must make the official decision for a change. You should find your district procedures on doing this, if you have not already done this.

Renee
06/05/2020 5:34 pm
Reply to  Chuck

If a student has an IEP the LEA must follow federal law, IDEA. IDEA mandates the required components to be included in a student’s Individualized Education Program. (Non-Attorney) Advocate.
 

Last edited 1 month ago by Renee
Chris
04/14/2019 8:35 am

I realize that this is an old thread but I am responding just in case it may help someone else. I am also a public school teacher with a child that has dysgraphia. The single best thing that I did to help my son was get him privately assessed. Once you have a formal diagnosis from a licensed professional there is very little that the public school can do to stand in your way of getting the accommodations your child needs. You can get an advocate for children with disabilities from the department of education to attend your meeting with you. Your child’s teacher can be held accountable for not following the 504. Dysgraphia and dyslexia are not grounds for an IEP most of the time. Focus on the 504.

Kathleen
09/18/2019 1:43 am
Reply to  Chris

My 16 year old son has Dysgraphia and was diagnosed in the 3rd grade. He saw one of the top neuropsychologists in our state. She explained that most ALL Dysgraphia students should DEFINITELY be on an IEP; especially if they are planning on attending college or beyond. Prior to my son’s IEP he had all c’s and d’s. After putting the IEP in place (And having hike tested he has all A’s. He is currently a junior in a private college prep high school, with a 4.8 GPA. Please do further research and get your child on an IEP!!!

Brooke
01/07/2020 5:03 pm
Reply to  Kathleen

Hi Kathleen,
I have been unable to get our district to give my son for Dysgraphia and ADHD. They say it is not grounds for an IEP and also point out that my sons grades are ok. In the meantime, the kid is in HS and can not write! I would be grateful for Any tips on how to pursue and be granted an IEP for dysgraphia.

Peter
01/10/2020 9:55 am
Reply to  Brooke

Brooke – there are two parts to the special education eligibility process.

The first is to have a qualifying diagnosis – there are 13 categories, and as others have said, your son would most likely be in the SLD category.

The second is for the IEP team to decide if that disability has an adverse effect on your son’s education.

To get the process started you must put your request in writing to the school (principal or special ed director). There is a ton of information about letter writing and how to submit your request on this website.

It always helps to present factual information in your request too, like report cards that show a failure to make adequate progress.

Make sure that they reply to your request in writing too!

Jessica
02/18/2020 3:09 pm
Reply to  Kathleen

What are some of the accommodations that they used to help?

Wrightslaw
05/31/2020 6:06 pm
Reply to  Jessica

In so many cases, schools offer accommodations (longer to complete tests, etc) but fail to provide what the child actually needs – instruction and/or tutoring designed to meet that child’s unique needs.

Starla
10/03/2019 7:56 am
Reply to  Chris

Dysgraphia, Dyslexia, and Dyscalculia most certainly ARE grounds for an IEP, under the SLD category!!!!

lourdes
01/10/2020 1:55 pm
Reply to  Starla

ONLY if there is an educational impact that requires specialized instruction. Many children just need accommodations which can be done through a 504.

Ellen
01/09/2020 10:34 pm
Reply to  Chris

I had my daughter privately assessed by a clinical psychologist and she was diagnosed with ADHD, anxiety and a specific reading disorder and a specific writing disorder. The school disregarded it and what boils down to good grades, said she doesn’t have any learning disorders. The assessment was done just prior to 2nd grade. At the end of 2nd grade she had some very low scores in reading and they agreed to do their own evaluation, Wechsler and Woodcock Johnson, same as what I had done privately. She is still getting good grades in 3rd grade, same conclusion, no specific learning disorder.

Wrightslaw
05/31/2020 6:04 pm
Reply to  Chris

Chris, you are 100% wrong about dysgraphia and dyslexia not being grounds for an IEP. The special ed law was enacted in 1975. The law specifically mentions dyslexia as a qualifying disability. Did you know that roughly 85% of kids who are classified with specific learning disabilities have dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia (math)?
 

Kathie
11/13/2018 1:24 pm

The words you want, if your child has struggled with writing and your school refuses to acknowledge is: “failure to find”. It is important to get dysgraphia noted on an IEP because the more a child struggles with the *mechanics* of writing, the less they are learning things like spelling and proper grammar. I have an undiagnosed son who is completing 12th grade with a 504. His writing, even on a computer is horrific because he never grasped basic sentence structure because he was struggling to actively write. My youngest is in 6th grade. He has had a dysgraphic IEP in place for three years now (failure to find in my older son got me the testing needed for my younger son) and he has a lot of accommodations. As a result, my 12-year-old writes more coherently than my 17-year-old.

Veronica
11/13/2018 1:55 pm
Reply to  Kathie

Kathie – Thanks so much for the information. I’m following this thread on dysgraphia. Is your 6th grader on grade level now for writing? Could you share some of the accommodations he receives? Also, do you know the specific tests that were used. TU

Heather
06/02/2020 1:38 am
Reply to  Veronica

Following

Katia
01/21/2020 6:32 pm
Reply to  Kathie

Hello Kathie, my name is Katia and i have a son with Dysgraphia. Although i have a statement from a licensed pediatrician stating my child has dysgraphia, the IEP he has (and had from 3rd grade) emphasized only the ADD as the reason for the IEP rather than the dysgraphia as well which impacts his writing and time skills. Does the IEP you have put on for your child in 6th grade helped him? the school is refusing to repeat the tests my son had 3 years ago as apparently now- we are beyond the mechanics of writing as he is in 6th grade middle school. However- i do feel he still needs help in this area- especially now with graphs and charts etc.
Is there a way you can help me with IEP goals in the area of dysgraphia if indeed they have worked for your son?
Thank you so much!

Ck1
10/16/2018 11:29 am

The best thing for a child with dysgraphia is to let them use a chrome book to do their homework. My son has had it since kindergarten and was teased but the school offered no help. Once they let him do his work by typing his grades did a I80. He now is a freshman in High School and is getting straight A’s except for Art which you have to use a pencil. My son can type as fast as a courtroom clerk. Our school district went green and issued all students chrome books. It has made a major difference.

Diane
10/15/2018 8:32 am

My sixth grader is having the same issues. She’s had a 504 since 1st grade for ADHD/anxiety. I started bringing up her difficulties with handwriting back then. Since then, through private evaluation, she has been diagnosed with a slow processing speed and a 5 to 7 year delay in fine motor skills. Her handwriting is still mostly illegible, and her independent writing has zero structure. She’s now being graded on her spelling and handwriting and having trouble completing classroom assignments. She has extended time for testing. How do I get that to cover daily assignments too? She has a D in reading right now from not getting her daily reading logs done.

Chuck
10/15/2018 5:39 pm
Reply to  Diane

Your state parent training and information center should be able to assist you. http://www.parentcenterhub.org/find-your-center

Michele
01/29/2019 7:28 am
Reply to  Diane

A chrome book can do speech to text (and text to speech). Students who struggle with writing are not to be assessed for their weakness. Also oral testing is a solution. Teachers need to be supported in this switch! They need the training, help changing their philosophy, the time to listen to student’s responses (vs grading a paper). The student’s team needs to come together to create a plan for this part of the IEP. Include the PT and/or OT district person to help educate staff around this challenge.

Judy
03/13/2018 1:03 pm

my daughter, also 8, has ADHD (cannot take meds due to complications with migraine), executive functioning issues, mild OCD and anxiety (mostly related to school), and we believe she also has dysgraphia. Working on getting a formal diagnosis. She is also highly gifted, but struggles with school work due to the writing requirements. I can’t understand how these kids don’t qualify for an IEP under specific learning disability, just because they’re smart. ?? anyone have any success getting help from their schools?

Ainsley
04/18/2018 10:08 pm
Reply to  Judy

You hav a ” twice exceptional ” child. A gifted student with a learning disability. Google this and learn all you can about it. The Colorado department of education put out an excellent resource book, ” Twice exceptional students: Gifted Students with disabilities resource book. Get a hold of this , read it, bring it to meetings with your child’s school administrators. Request in writing that the school do a formal evaluation and know you’re rights. This is the most under identified, and least understood group of children in the public school system. They suffer tremendously because teachers lack the skills to recognize them and meet their needs. Best of luck.

Judy
06/23/2018 8:29 pm
Reply to  Ainsley

Hi Ainsley,
Thanks for the reply. I’m aware that my daughter is 2E, and absolutely being under-served. Her teacher this year didn’t even honor most of the provisions in her 504 because she didn’t believe they were necessary. My husband and I are both teachers, and very aware of the laws governing special ed. Unfortunately that hasn’t helped us. Our district is adamant that she doesn’t need an IEP because she’s getting all A’s. (she’s getting A’s, but it’s KILLING her! The stress on her is unbelievable and she’s only in 3rd grade!) I’m considering going back to school for a PhD and doing a dissertation on twice exceptional kids, and the failure of schools to recognize and support them. What I need right now are answers to help my daughter get through school so things don’t get worse!

Michele
01/29/2019 7:38 am
Reply to  Judy

A meeting with all the district support specialists: OT, PT, psychologist, sped district coordinator, her teacher and a teacher of a grade where her skills are, principal all need to come together. A clear understanding of your daughter – all of her; the testing, cognitive and achievement an and any other. Include descriptions of her disability. Anxiety is a part of ADHD. The goal is to create a plan to support all of her challenges – spell them out. I would not allow the meeting to end until each concern is addressed with an action. They key plays then meet in a month to review the plan. And keep meeting until it is working. Get an educational advocate – especially if teaching in the same district as your daughter is attending.
Document the anxiety & challenges you see.

Joan
04/13/2020 6:27 pm
Reply to  Michele

Yes, thank you. The first person to mention OT. All of the kids described here should have been evaluated by an OT, and most likely had several years of Occupational Therapy. Difficulties with handwriting are not isolated from many types of neurological processing. It is vital if a child will succeed and perform in life at the level that they are capable of that they have this therapy to improve their neurological processing. It is really disappointing that these students have been so neglected. Kids with these processing issues difficulties are rarely limited to just handwriting. Yes, using a computer is an accommodation, but they also need remediation, quite definitely should have services and an IEP. This is another step backwards in services from decades ago.

V A
05/26/2020 7:14 pm
Reply to  Ainsley

Thank you for all these posts. I’m in tears reading it. Our son has similar issues and we are fighting with the school for more services. He currently gets OT. He also does very well in some subjects and is most likely 2E so they think he doesn’t need more help.

Chuck
05/27/2020 1:44 pm
Reply to  V A

If you have not tried getting help from your state parent training & information center, I suggest trying them. http://www.parentcenterhub.org/find-your-center Hang in there.

Karen
10/15/2017 10:37 pm

My son has Dsygraphia. Writing involves more, cognitively, than meets the eye. The act of writing involves planning, sizing, letter forming, alignment,controlling the pressure placed on & direction of the pencil+ more.Fine motor skills (&often the small muscles involved) are impacted in a neg way. Just the act of writing is hard. The writer also has to track what he is writing about, what has been written, what he will write next & filter out what might not be pertinent. When the body/brain is struggling to physically meet the demands of the task alone, writing becomes frustrating & laborious. Lightening the cognitive load by supporting the phys demands allows the thoughts to better be put on paper Priority is get thoughts out not how.

Karen
10/16/2017 11:31 pm
Reply to  Karen

We found it helpful to remind the people in our 504 meetings of the above. We have even had to have the school psychologist attend meetings to validate this.

Caron
10/13/2017 5:23 pm

My son is in 7th grade and is severely impacted by his dysgraphia. I need some SMART goals for a kid who is according to Aims web test in the 4th percentile for writing. Please suggest or send me a link to where I could find some?

monica
05/18/2017 3:24 pm

I can not get my son diagnosed with dyslexia or dysgraphia because he test right at the line his IQ is very high so they say he can learn. He did not qualify for an IEP but his principal finally agreed to a 504 plan. He is in 3rd grade will it follow him through high school?

Chuck
05/19/2017 3:06 pm
Reply to  monica

A student can have a disability despite having a high IQ. Information on this website regarding, eligibility, twice exceptional, & child find discuss this fact. If you have not done so, involve the special ed staff. Keep records of all responses from the school. Your state parent training & information center can assist you. http://www.parentcenterhub.org/find-your-center

Tim
10/13/2017 4:53 pm
Reply to  monica

504 is cradle to grave … IEP is through HS

Morning
10/19/2017 7:44 am
Reply to  Tim

“504 is cradle to grave … IEP is through HS” starts a good discussion for parents and students. Regardless if you are going into the workforce, college, etc., it is smart for a student to know his/her rights, documentation requirements for colleges, etc. The IEP does not close the door after after school but one needs to know what is involved if one is going to college, etc. to request accommodations etc, such as specific current evaluations and testing. There is a process involved and a need to understand expectations and rights. That is why transition planning is important and should start early. I advise students and parents to keep IEPs for a while after after school as employment specialists and other agencies may use such as a starting point for discussions.

Axa
10/13/2017 5:16 pm
Reply to  monica

I had the same problem but when my son was six, we took him to a Developmental Pediatrician who diagnosed him with dysgraphia. Once we had a medical diagnosis, the district started serving him.

Michael
10/30/2018 2:03 pm
Reply to  Axa

that is not in the scope of practice for pediatricians. They aren’t trained in learning disability identification.

Connie
06/22/2020 8:51 am
Reply to  Michael

You need to educate yourself on what a Developmental Pediatrician does. They are trained experts in diagnosis of learning disorders.

Denise
10/12/2016 9:41 pm

Put the writing into his IEP now! My son is in 7th grade and the dysgraphia is not part of his IEP, and his 7th grade teacher refuses to accept his handwritten work if she can’t read it and she won’t let him type because she wants it in “her workbook!” Get it in now and keep it there because it will be middle and high school where he will need that protection in his classes.

Danielle
04/21/2017 7:23 am
Reply to  Denise

Denise,

Good to know because I am currently going through this with my 3rd grader. He has been diagnosed with dysgraphia and is on a 504. I am in the same boat because I have been told to do it while they are in elementary because it is difficult once they reach middle. His teacher now believe he is just not trying and wanting to get out of his work. I have a psych eval and OT eval stating the facts that his writing is non-functional. Do you know what I would have to do to request and IEP for SLD instead of a 504 so he could receive more services or should I keep him on a 504?

Thank you!
Danielle

Chuck
04/21/2017 12:23 pm
Reply to  Danielle

Send a written request for special ed testing to the principal, & the district special ed office. They need to respond in writing yes or no, & give reasons for a no answer.

Lee
05/22/2018 2:01 pm
Reply to  Danielle

All the best.

Julie
06/02/2017 12:35 am
Reply to  Denise

How /where did you go to get dysgraphia diagnosis ? I’m having a hard time finding a testing center that will diagnose it in TX.

Admin
06/10/2017 12:50 pm
Reply to  Julie

Julie, If you haven’t done this yet, suggest you get a comprehensive psychoeducational evaluation of your child by a clinical psych or educational evaluator in the private sector. When a child has dysgraphia, he usually has other related problems that need to be identified.

Re: finding an evaluator, look for an evaluator who has expertise in language learning problems (dysgraphia, dyslexia, etc). The International Dyslexia Association (IDA) is a good place to start. They have a Provider Directory on their site that lists evaluators and academic tutors: https://dyslexiaida.org/ida-accredited-provider-directory/

You can also check our Yellow Pages for Kids for evaluator, tutors, and others who help kids with disabilities: http://www.yellowpagesforkids.com/

I’d go with the IDA Providers first.

Good luck!

Axa
10/13/2017 5:22 pm
Reply to  Wrightslaw

School districts say that they don’t have to accept an outside psychologist’s evaluation, particularly if it contradicts the PsychEd evaluations done by the district’s psychologist. It is for this reason that we and a lot of parents do to a Developmental Pediatric Center. If the child is diagnosed by a medical center, the district immediately accepts the diagnosis without further challenge.

Amy
08/07/2017 2:16 am
Reply to  Julie

Hirsh and associates in league city, TX

Tammi
10/13/2017 4:39 pm
Reply to  Julie

Scottish Rites in Dallas diagnosed my son with dysgraphia.

Axa
10/13/2017 5:18 pm
Reply to  Julie

Go to a Developmental Pediatric Center. They are typically associated with University Medical Hospitals. Since these are medical doctors, you get a medical diagnosis and the district must accept the diagnosis.

Brigitte
05/16/2018 1:10 pm
Reply to  Axa

This information is not accurate. There is no provision in IDEA or the Texas Education Code that supports this statement that districts have to accept a medical diagnosis. Just because a student has received a medical diagnosis does not automatically mean that this medical diagnosis will impact the child educationally.

Kim
09/17/2019 8:05 am
Reply to  Julie

I know this is old – but if anyone else is wondering and near Dallas ours was first diagnosed through a dyslexia evaluation at Scotish Rite

Richelle
01/13/2016 4:47 pm

Thank you for the advice!! So glad I found & joined this site – very helpful information!

Jill G
01/13/2016 4:30 pm

Richelle –

What info did the school use to decide not to include dysgraphia in the 504 plan? Did they assess your son in this area, or did they simply rely on evidence provided by you?

To be eligible for an IEP, a student must have a need for specially designed instruction (i.e. modifications). This is a higher standard than for a 504 plan, where students must only have a need for accommodations and/or related services.

If the school DID assess for dysgraphia, asking for an evaluation for special education eligibility will not likely do much good. You can ask for a due process hearing if you disagree with the results of the assessment or the content of 504 plan.

Jill G
01/13/2016 4:33 pm

If the school did not assess, you have a few more options. If you think a 504 plan will meet his needs, you can ask that they assess his need for dysgraphia-related supports.

If you think he needs more support than a 504 plan will provide, ask for the special education evaluation. This route provides you with more procedural protections. You will still have a right to a due process hearing, but also have the right to publicly-funded independent evaluations and parental participation in plan development.

If you’re not sure which way to go, ask for the special education evaluation. Again, this will provide you with more procedural protections. And if your son is found ineligible, the results can be used to update the 504 plan.

Richelle
01/13/2016 4:40 pm

Thank you so much, that is very helpful!!

Richelle
01/13/2016 4:44 pm

Thank you for responding. We had an outside psych. evaluation done, and the report was very detailed – plus notes from previous year teacher and my option which all indicated he needed accommodations for writing. At the time of the meeting his current teacher of only 2weeks stated he was doing fine -And that is what they sided with, and I was beside myself.

Penny
10/13/2017 2:18 pm
Reply to  Richelle

Go on up the chain of command to the school district Special Education Director. If all else fails go to the State Board of Education. After 10 years of advocacy for my child I will tell you that unless you are very lucky to be working with a local 504/IEP Team that truly follows the law to provide for the unique needs of your child, you will be swimming up stream. There is a letter dated 10/23/15 from the US Department of Education. Office of Special Education and Rehabilitation Services signed by Michael York that focuses on ensuring that a high-quality education is provided for children with unique educational needs with specific learning disabilities (SLD), i.e. dyslexia, dyscalculia, and dysgraphia. If your child has been diagnosed with a SLD he qualifies for services under IDEA.

Erica
10/13/2017 6:41 pm
Reply to  Richelle

My daughter also was accused of not trying. The principal called her “defiant” and I told her she wasn’t qualified to make that diagnosis (in front of the whole child study team), You have to put the request in writing specifying that you believe you child may have a learning disability. I honestly was happy with the 504 plan for my daughter. Academically, I was told she didn’t meet the eligibility for an IEP. Her writing was low C to high D, the rest was As. I knew that was too big of a valley and that she needed help. She got OT and 3 days a week of pull out services just for writing. She also got extra time for writing assignments and tests which took the pressure off her. By 4th grade she was done with OT and extra help outside the mainstream classroom and 504 was gone by 7th.

Jill G
01/13/2016 4:45 pm

Well, you can accept things as they are (sounds like this is not your top option)!

You could request a due process hearing under Section 504, to dispute the appropriateness of the current plan. The school should give you info on how to do this (it varies widely by location).

Or you could request an initial evaluation for special education eligibility. The school could refuse – and you could request a hearing. The school could conduct it and find him ineligible – and you could request an independent evaluation and/or hearing. Or they could find him eligible and it’s on to IEP development!

It’s hard to say which is the best option for you. It really depends on how you think your son will best be served.

Good luck!!

Sophie
01/13/2016 4:41 pm

I would start with a list of the ways your son is adversely affected by insufficient supports, and a list of the supports you think would be helpful for him. (By the way, you can help him learn to touch type at home, with, for example, http://play.bbc.co.uk/play/pen/g8s4pb547b. That will help tremendously in the long run.) Read your state’s guide to testing accommodations to get some good ideas.

Try to get the teacher to try some of these ideas out informally.

If that doesn’t work, you might want to request an IEP, as a bargaining move. But the ideal would be to simply strengthen his 504 plan. Yes, an IEP would give you greater protections and state oversight, but it can be difficult to get with these diagnoses.